More Rosebud - we talk to Julia Samuel MBE about grief, bereavement and loss
Rosebud with Gyles Brandreth
Gyles Brandreth / Plain Jaine Media
4.6 • 2.3K Ratings
🗓️ 14 October 2025
⏱️ 94 minutes
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Summary
In this long-awaited episode, Gyles (and Harriet) talk to the psychotherapist, writer and broadcaster Julia Samuel about bereavement. As regular Rosebud listeners will know, bereavement - whether in childhood or adulthood - is a recurring theme on the podcast, and we have received and shared many heartfelt and deeply moving emails from listeners who lost parents and family members when they were very young, and in difficult circumstances. We also know that we're listened to by lots of recent widows, and others who are grieving. This special episode is for you, and for anyone else who knows the pain of grief... which is probably most of us, let's be honest!
Julia Samuel is the founder of Child Bereavement UK, an experienced psychotherapist, and the writer of the best-selling book Grief Works (which is also an app and a podcast). She is one of the UK's foremost experts on bereavement and grief, the ways it affects us, and the ways we can heal and grow through it. In this long and fascinating conversation, she talks to Gyles about the importance of "jumping in the puddle" of grief, and not denying or ignoring it. She talks about the best ways to support someone who has lost a loved one. She talks about her own family history, and the way her family story, with its secrets and buried feelings, led her to work in this field. And the podcast ends with Julia talking to Harriet about her experience of the death of her mother, Patience, who took her own life when Harriet was 13. (This episode does contain references to suicide).
We would love to hear your thoughts and stories that arise from listening to this edition of Rosebud. Email us any time at hello@rosebudpodcast.com and Harriet will try her best to reply! You can also chat to fellow listeners on our Facebook page, Rosebud Reflections. Lots of people are sharing their stories on there.
Julia's book, Grief Works, is available here.
We're honoured to have Julia Samuel with us today. And we're honoured that you're listening to us. Cue the music...
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