If you're a fan of this podcast, you know there are a lot of problems with cars, and one of the biggies is what they do to the environment.

And with all the climate misinformation out there, it can be really hard to know what to believe or even what to do.

Luckily, there's an excellent podcast that's all about this very issue.

It's called The Climate Deniers Playbook, and it's hosted by

our friends, Raleigh Williams and Nicole Conlin. I happen to have Nicole right here.

I happen to be here with you, Doug. Hi. Hey, what a coincidence. I am a huge fan of your podcast,

but since I have you right here, let me hit you with a hypothetical. Let's say I am sitting next to you on an airplane,

and I'm one of those annoying guys who ignores that you have your headphones on, and you clearly want to zone out,

and I start asking you, what do you do? What would you tell me the climate deniers playbook is all about?

Well, first thing I'd wonder is why we weren't taking a train,

but then I'd tell you that my co-host, Raleigh and I are both comedians with master's degrees.

Mine's in urban planning and Raleys is in climate and society.

And in each episode of the podcast, we take on a major climate denial talking point

and deconstruct it so that listeners are better equipped to fight back

against misinformation campaigns. Like the idea that more carbon is good for plants or offshore wind

turbines are killing whales. Exactly. And we've even done episodes on why electric cars won't save us

and the absolutely wild conspiracy theories about 15-minute cities.

I love it, and I know our listeners will too.

You can find the Climate Deniers Playbook wherever you listen to podcasts,

so go check it out and download a bunch of episodes for your next long plane ride.

Train ride.

Right, train ride.

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