More Indexes, ETFs and Manager Skill, but Less Alpha
Money For the Rest of Us
J. David Stein
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🗓️ 3 April 2019
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
How the increase in indexing is leading to the creation of more stock indexes, most of which are used by active managers. How more indexing makes it more difficult for active managers to outperform even though managers are getting more skilled.
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- [0:22] Definition of “alpha.”
- [0:49] Why there are so many indexes available.
- [4:35] The business of indexing.
- [7:01] The criteria that index providers use.
- [8:04] The cost of change in the index.
- [10:27] How some companies create ETFs.
- [12:44] Understanding the complexity of indexes and ETFs.
- [15:30] The influence of passive management on active management skills.
- [20:42] Understanding all the underlying facets of an index.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Money for the rest of us. This is a personal finance show on Money, how it works, how to invest it and how to live without worrying about it. |
| 0:11.0 | I'm your host, David Stein today as episode 247. It's titled |
| 0:15.1 | More Indexes, ETS, and Manager Skill, but less Alpha. Alpha is a word for excess return. |
| 0:25.0 | At least that's how we're going to use it in today's episode, |
| 0:28.0 | the ability of managers to outperform an index. |
| 0:32.0 | In the paradox, we'll see that managers are actually getting more |
| 0:36.2 | skillful in terms of their ability to identify mispriced securities but that isn't translating into excess return. We'll see why in this |
| 0:48.1 | episode. But before that, let's look at indices or indexes. Turns out you can use either word. For that's the |
| 0:55.0 | the first, it turns out you can use either word. That's the plural of index. |
| 0:57.0 | Indexes or indices. |
| 1:00.0 | This was |
| 1:05.0 | proliferating and he wanted to know about how indexes and E.T. F. was proliferating. |
| 1:10.0 | And he wanted to know about how index providers operate. |
| 1:14.7 | What's their criteria for example including a particular stock in their index? |
| 1:22.1 | In 2017 there was 79.2 trillion dollars of assets under management |
| 1:29.6 | around the world. With revenue of 275 billion dollars, this is according to the Boston Consulting Group. |
| 1:36.6 | That includes both passive strategies which seek to replicate an index and active strategies that seek to outperform an index. |
| 1:46.7 | Now here is a shocking number. |
| 1:49.5 | There are 3.3 million stock indexes. |
| 1:55.0 | 3.3 million. |
| 1:57.5 | That's 70 times more indexes than there |
| 2:00.2 | are publicly traded securities or publicly traded stocks. There are 43,000 publicly |
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