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Happier with Gretchen Rubin

More Happier: No “Guilty” Pleasures & Returning to the Treadmill Desk

Happier with Gretchen Rubin

Gretchen Rubin / The Onward Project

Education, Health & Fitness, Self-improvement

4.713K Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

We talk about why it can helpful to trust our interests and inclinations about what to read, watch, or listen to, without imposing a lot of judgment on our choices.

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0:00.0

Lemonada.

0:02.7

Hello, we're here for more happier, a podcast where we get happier.

0:16.4

Join us for some weekend listening.

0:18.6

It's more observations and reflections with a little bit of a looser weekend vibe.

0:23.2

Hey, Elizabeth.

0:24.3

Hey, Gretch.

0:25.3

Today we'll talk about loving something without judgment.

0:28.4

And we go deeper on the psychology of the treadmill desk.

0:32.6

But first, something making us happier.

0:34.8

Elizabeth, what's making you happier?

0:36.8

Gretch, what's making me happier is the

0:39.0

short trip that we both took to Kansas City last weekend. Yes, we did. I saw Eliza. She was in town,

0:47.7

and we were taking her out to dinner, and she mentioned that you guys had just decided to go to

0:51.9

Kansas City, and I said, oh, well, when are you going?

0:55.4

Maybe I'll hop on your trip.

1:01.7

Because remember, I talked about giving myself a demerit because I couldn't figure out any dates for Kansas City.

1:02.0

Yes. My brain wasn't working.

1:04.0

So I said, okay, forget it.

1:05.8

I'm not going to try.

1:06.7

I'm just going to jump on Gretchen's trip. And it was, of course, so much fun as Kansas City always is.

1:13.3

I mean, to me, summer is Kansas City.

1:16.7

The air in Kansas City is what I associate with summer.

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