All right, so that was it 12 years old.

Bring us forward from that.

Tell us some other things that you've had go on.

Are you still living on the same place?

Or have you...

No sir.

My dad had retired from the oil field when I think I was about 16 or 17, he retired and

we had to eventually move off the oil field property.

But up until that time, I mean, we all, ever since I was a little kid, we seen weird stuff

out there.

I mean, it's an old land, you know, nobody, we didn't live around nobody.

I mean, we didn't have no neighbors whatsoever.

I mean, it was just us out there in the oil field, middle of the oil field.

That was it.

That was just us.

My brother, we ended up buying him a tree stand.

And there's a certain patch of wood, which I'll get to all of this in a minute, you

know, this is us talking about it now.

Now that I've done research on these things and everything, there's a lot more of them

out there than I thought there was.

I'll just put it that way.

You just tell this the way you want to tell it, buddy.

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