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More alive than dead?

More or Less

BBC

News Commentary, Science, Mathematics, News

4.63.7K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2012

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Tim Harford investigates one of the most popular questions from More or Less listeners: “Are there more people alive today than have ever lived?” It is a zombie statistic that every time it is laid to rest it rises again. He also looks at whether science fiction writer Arthur C Clarke was right when he suggested that behind every living person are 30 ghosts. He also investigates the strange story of Michelle Obama’s shopping trip to a lingerie store in New York. Can she really have spent $50,000 on underwear? This programme was originally broadcast on the BBC World Service.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Just before this BBC podcast gets underway, here's something you may not know.

0:04.7

My name's Linda Davies and I Commission Podcasts for BBC Sounds.

0:08.5

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0:18.0

What you may not know is that the BBC makes podcasts about all kinds of things like pop stars,

0:24.6

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0:29.7

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0:36.0

You're listening to a download from the BBC. This is more or less.

0:41.0

We make an edition of the program for BBC Radio 4, but this is a download of a special

0:45.2

edition broadcast on the World Service.

0:48.6

Hello and welcome to more or less on the BBC World Service.

0:53.0

We're your weekly guide to the numbers in the news and in life,

0:56.0

and I'm Tim Harford.

0:57.0

In a moment, we'll be putting our in-depth investigative resources into action

1:01.0

to look at Michelle Obama's reported love for

1:03.8

lingerie shopping. But first, we'll attempt to slay yet another zombie statistic,

1:09.4

one that no matter how often you think you've cut it down, it picks itself up and lumbers on.

1:15.4

This is a question that we get asked more than any other on more or less, and perhaps one which

1:20.0

taps into people's fear of a population explosion.

1:23.6

The question is, are there really more people alive today than have ever lived?

1:29.4

It's often quoted as a fact.

1:31.3

Take this example from a BBC reporter,

1:33.4

ever the tactful colleagues will leave him anonymous, back in 2008.

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