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Hello, friends.

I'm really delighted to bring you this compassionate and timely conversation.

Today I'm interviewing Dr. Kurt Gray, a psychologist and neuroscientist with a new book out called

Outraged, Why We Fight About Morality and Politics, and how to find common ground. Bottom line,

our country feels more divided than ever, and there is so much hurt and confusion out there.

So I hope this conversation will help you on your path to understanding.

I know it helped me. This book is fascinating and it begins with an evolutionary exploration,

literally how the prey versus predator dynamic has contributed to our social evolution and then goes

on to explore the development of our moral mind and how we have landed

at this particular place of danger and uncertainty. I definitely recommend reading this book

for the full context, but in a nutshell, our evolutionary past, the ancient threats that

shaped human nature, makes us all worry about harm.

And when it comes to the modern day threats we worry about now,

we disagree about which harms are most pressing.

And these differing perceptions of harm are what lead to moral outrage and political disagreements.

So where do we go from here? Let's have a listen.

Hello, Dr. Kurt Gray. Welcome to the mic today. Thanks for having me. Well, Kurt, I have so

many questions for you, but first, I wanted to be able to thank you live for writing this book as a person

who indeed has been struggling to understand, as you indicate in your dedication, and who also

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