But she does a master class on what tennis?

Like you're not going to play tennis like Serena Williams.

Welcome to Spinster's, the podcast where we are the clear moral choice here.

I'm Haley.

This is Jordan.

We are joined by our producer Harry and our social media manager, Sierra.

Today we're also joined by Jayacaspian kang we are so

excited um it's a great conversation um and before we get to it our housekeeping subscribe to our

youtube make me and jordan some money and also me and producer harry were on the long shot pod and me and

jordan were on what did I miss

with Michelle Beatle. It was award show. The non-traditional NBA award show is very fun. Yes, very fun.

So check all of those out. And are we about to go into a break? that what happens after these okay and here's here's

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to claim your $75 credit before April 30th um can we'll start by um jay if you want to introduce

yourself and your stuff uh my name's Jay Kang.

I'm writer for the New York Times opinion section.

And I have podcasts with some of my friends too, called Time to Say Goodbye.

And you wrote a book.

Are you like done plugging your book?

Has it been like a year?

Is that when people cut it off? Yeah, I think it's like when your relationship with your book turns, which I'm at. You know, I'm like, I get this out of my life. But everyone should buy it. It's called the Loneliness of Americans. Your relationship with it doesn't have to flex mine, but mine definitely it's just like you know like what's next in my life

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