Hello, this is Business Daily from the BBC. I'm Manuel Zaragoza. Welcome. Coming up, the economist who argues

America's Apollo program, which landed people on the moon in the 1960s, has a lot to teach us about

tackling some of the biggest economic challenges here on Earth today. I want to see a much bolder state really worried about the big

goals of our times around carbon neutrality or global goals around plastic free ocean. So less about

just handing out money here and there and really starting with the goals. A conversation with the

Pope's favourite economist, Mariana Matsukato, on fixing the global economy.

That's here on Business Daily from the BBC.

We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon.

We choose to go to the moon and this decade and do the other things,

not because they are easy, but because they are hard.

Because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills,

because that challenge is one that we're willing to accept,

one we are unwilling to postpone, and one we intend to win.

President Kennedy speaking in 1962, announcing the Apollo program,

America's mission to land a man on the moon.

A historic speech, often quoted. What's

less talked about is that the Apollo mission spurred dozens of new inventions and businesses

that rippled across economies everywhere. Innovation and investment in materials, nutrition,

electronics, the whole software industry in some ways we could see as a spillover from that mission.

You know, camera phones, cat scans, LEDs, foil blankets, athletic shoes and the materials used

for them, baby formula. These were all spillovers that happened along the way.

Mariana Matsukato there, the high-profile economist noted for her advocacy for more

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