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The Daily Beast Podcast

Monumental Sign Trump Is Running Scared: Rothkopf

The Daily Beast Podcast

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4.68.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

David Rothkopf joins Joanna Coles as the White House hits messy overdrive, trying to contain war abroad and chaos at home. From an Iran conflict Trump reportedly can’t manage to illegal tariffs sparking corporate backlash to a cabinet mired in scandal, including Kash Patel under fire, and Pete Hegseth losing the room, Rothkopf, The Daily Beast’s unmissable columnist, paints a picture of an administration held together by optics, not strategy, and his now showing signs that he's scared about it. With insiders panicking ahead of the midterms and questions mounting about Trump’s fitness and control, they ask: How long can the illusion hold before it all collapses? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

And I'm going to give you just a little tiny, incy-weensy bit of hopes.

0:04.6

Last week, they appointed a head of the CDC, who is a woman, who actually is a public health

0:11.5

professional, was actually a former deputy surgeon general, who is respected in the field, and who

0:19.0

is a woman of color, who is the least Trumpy domination

0:22.7

they've made anywhere and is a good pick. To me, that's a sign that they're running scared.

0:30.9

I'm Joanna Coles. This is the Day of East podcast, and there is full panic in the White

0:36.4

House. At one point, apparently, according to a new story in the Wall Street Journal,

0:40.2

Trump was led out of the situation room because he couldn't be there.

0:45.7

He was screaming so much.

0:48.1

Obviously under pressure, Susie Wiles is having an offsite today

0:51.8

to reassure Republican candidates and Republican Congress people

0:56.9

that there is a future. Well, is there a future? And Cash Patel, well, David Rothcob has been

1:03.5

talking to his sources at the FBI and in the intelligence community and he will be giving us

1:08.8

further details of what the hell is going on with this current

1:11.8

cabinet. So no time to waste. And just a reminder, before we get into it with David Rothkoff,

1:17.0

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1:23.6

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1:30.9

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1:36.1

bring you the conversations that we do.

1:38.8

David Roskopf.

1:41.8

Joanna!

1:43.8

Help! Help! Help! It's Monday! David Rothkopf. Joanna.

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