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Wall Street Breakfast

Monster bond moves

Wall Street Breakfast

Seeking Alpha

Business News, News, Business, Investing

4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 14 December 2023

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Summary

10-year Treasury yield falls below 4% from 5% at breakneck speed. (0:15) Retail sales show a surprise gain. (2:17) Influential bank analyst upgrades 5 stocks in wake of Fed. (4:30)

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0:00.0

Welcome to Seeking Alpha's Wall Street Lunch, our afternoon update on today's market action news and analysis.

0:11.0

Good afternoon. Today is Thursday, December 14th, and I'm your host Kim Kahn. Our top story today.

0:16.0

The epic move in the bond market continues as traders adjust to what many are, may be prematurely,

0:21.0

calling a new landscape for U.S. rates.

0:24.2

The 10-year yield fell below 4% for the first time since August.

0:27.8

This plunged down from 5% in late October, seeing swings that strategists say look untethered to U.S. economic forecasts.

0:34.0

The shorter end of the curve has seen even sharper moves.

0:37.0

The two-year yield is below 4.4 percent, levels not seen since June.

0:41.0

I.N.G. says yields have seen a remarkable ongoing market move, especially as it's been interlaced

0:47.0

with some tailed auctions, indicative of resistance to the falling market rates narrative in the long end.

0:52.0

But there's been little from

0:53.6

Chair Powell and the FOMC to stand in the way of this. Recent data has not really

0:58.0

validated the dramatic fall-in yields, they add. They say fair value for the 10 years at 4%, but the 2024 path looks to be to 3.5%,

1:07.6

which would be an overshoot.

1:09.3

If something breaks, we fast track all of that and jump to a new environment.

1:13.0

That has not happened as of yet, but we think the stakes have risen.

1:16.0

The inversion spread between the twos and tens has narrowed to below 50 basis points.

1:21.0

A twos-tens curve in version is considered to be a signal in

1:24.5

upcoming recession, but yields are fluctuating sharply as the consensus moves

1:28.7

towards the Fed pulling off a rare soft landing. Golden Sachs now expects three early 2024 rate cuts starting in March.

1:37.0

Chief Economist Jan Hatzius says they forecast consecutive 25 basis point cuts in March, May, and June to reset the policy

1:45.2

rate from a level that Powell has recently taken to describing as well into restrictive territory

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