Monopoly Isn't A Game (with Lina Khan) - Stay Tuned with Preet

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🗓️ 27 May 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Why should any of us care about monopolies? Lina Khan, the youngest-ever chair of the Federal Trade Commission, joins Preet to discuss the real-world impact of monopoly power, the surprising bipartisan support for antitrust enforcement, and her rapid rise to prominence after publishing a groundbreaking paper on Amazon's business practices during law school. Plus, Preet answers questions about the qualifications to become Surgeon General, Kid Rock's restaurant, and Bruce Springsteen. Join the Insider community to stay informed without the hysteria, fear-mongering, or rage-baiting. Sign up on our website, or find us on Substack. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website. You can now watch this episode! Head to the Stay Tuned Youtube channel and subscribe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi everyone. It's Kara Swisher. Pivot is off for the holiday, so we're bringing you an episode of Stay Tuned featuring Preet Barrara's conversation with former FTC Commissioner Lena Kahn. The two discuss all things antitrust, including whether the Trump administration will continue Khan's policies or abandon them. Preet also just launched a new
0:21.6	StayTuned substack. Sign up at staytuned.substack.com. Scott and I will be back on Friday with the
0:29.2	latest breakdown of all things tech and business and yes, probably a penis joke or two.
0:34.1	Or three. From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, welcome to stay tuned.
0:41.0	I'm Preet Bharara.
0:43.0	One of the biggest ways that we've seen anti-monopoly make such advances is because the
0:48.4	evidence has been on our side. We had a shortage of infant formula in this country in the year
0:53.9	2022 from a single
0:55.8	contamination in a single factory.
1:03.0	That's Lena Khan. She made history in 2021 when President Biden appointed her as the youngest
1:09.6	ever chair of the Federal Trade Commission
1:11.4	at age 32. During her time at the FTC, Khan accused big companies of using their power
1:17.8	to push out competitors and hurt small businesses. Today, Lena Khan joins me to discuss the
1:24.4	influential paper she wrote in law school that launched her into the spotlight and paved her path to the FTC.
1:30.7	We'll also explore the nature of fair competition,
1:33.5	which she says defines a monopoly, and some of Kahn's key cases.
1:38.1	Later in the show, I'll answer your questions about the proper qualifications for Surgeon General,
1:43.1	Kid Rock's Restaurant, and Bruce Springsteen.
1:46.5	That's coming up. Stay tuned.
1:54.1	Support for this show comes from Shopify. When you're starting your own business, it seems like your
2:00.5	to-do list never stops growing.
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