Monolithic to Modular DAOs with Julz Rosenberg | Layer Zero
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🗓️ 21 June 2022
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
How do DAOs go from monolithic to modular? Julia aka Julz Rosenburg has the answer. Julz is the Co-Founder of Orca Protocol, a project trying to uncomplicate coordination by mirroring human coordination. How? One word: Pods!
In their current state, most DAOs have coordination and hierarchical problems. However, with the help of Julz and the Orca Protocol team, this won’t always be the case.
Why are pods essential for the future of DAOs and work? What obstacles stand in the way to achieve this future? Why aren’t you pod-pilled yet? Answers to these questions and so much more in the episode.
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Topics Covered:
0:00 Intro
4:31 What Julz is Here To Do
9:07 History & Summary of Governance
14:48 Trustware vs. Socialware
20:43 Innovation on the Trustware Layer
22:16 Orca Protocol
25:10 Why Pods Matter
30:30 DAO Governance Critiques
36:07 The U.S. Governance System
39:10 The Future of Work
43:34 Monolithic to Modular DAOs
48:05 DAO Metaphors
50:42 How to Get Culture to Scale Exponentially
56:03 Pod Coordination
57:40 DAO Governance Optimism
59:28 Julz’s Advice & Resources for DAOs
1:01:18 Orca’s Product & Capturing Resources
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Resources:
Julz on Twitter
https://twitter.com/JulzRoze
Orca Protocol
https://www.orcaprotocol.org/
https://twitter.com/OrcaProtocol
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Layer 0. |
| 0:08.0 | Layer 0 is a podcast of unscripted conversations with the people that make up the Ethereum community. |
| 0:13.0 | Crypto is built by code, but is composed by people, |
| 0:16.0 | and each individual member of the crypto community has their own story to tell. |
| 0:20.0 | CypherPunks understood that the code they write impacts the people that use it, |
| 0:23.0 | and Layer 0 focuses on the people behind the code, |
| 0:26.0 | because Ethereum is people all the way down, and it always has been. |
| 0:30.0 | Today on Layer 0, I'm talking to my friend Julia, and Julia works at Orca Protocol, |
| 0:35.0 | and I, without expecting it, get what's called, I guess, Orca Pilled during this show, |
| 0:41.0 | as we talk about things like Dow Governance and Dow Structure, |
| 0:44.0 | and where Dow's are currently, and where they are going to be. |
| 0:48.0 | Now, I don't know if I'm behind the curve on this conversation, |
| 0:52.0 | or ahead of the curve on this conversation, |
| 0:54.0 | but I think we just created a new meme in this podcast called The Modular Dow, |
| 0:59.0 | and Dow's being in their current form, monolithic Dow. |
| 1:02.0 | Just like how blockchains all started, monolithic, |
| 1:04.0 | and some blockchains have then progressed into becoming modular, |
| 1:08.0 | and modular blockchains becoming the new frontier level of crypto economic research, |
| 1:12.0 | I think Dow's are in that same state, where every single Dow right now is monolithic. |
| 1:17.0 | As in, there's token weighted governance governing over every single decision, |
| 1:22.0 | and it's causing apathy. |
| 1:23.0 | The Dow can't go in all directions at once, |
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