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Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

MoNo Encore: The Car Barn Murders w/ Karen Smith

Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

Erik Rivenes

True Crime, History, Education

4.72.8K Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

(Orig pub date 8/15/23) In the early morning of January 21st, 1935 two employees of the Capital Transit Company in Chevy Chase, Maryland were cold-bloodedly gunned down. One of the men murdered was my guest's great-great uncle Emory Smith. As the police investigated the list of compelling suspects grew, but a powerful cover-up appeared to be in play, ultimately preventing the perpetrators from facing justice.  Former forensic detective Karen Smith joins me today to talk about her extensive personal investigation into this 88-year-old cold case, and she shares some of the shocking evidence she uncovered during her research. Karen is the host of the popular podcast "Shattered Souls", available wherever podcasts are heard.  Shattered Souls at Apple Podcasts: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shattered-souls/id679462887⁠ Shattered Souls at Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4ny3a6GvvVkMGPz0TTZRpP⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

400 years ago, a trio of tiny kingdoms were perched on some damp islands off the coast of Europe.

0:07.0

Within three short centuries, these islands would become the center of an empire which ruled a quarter of the globe and on which the sun never set.

0:15.0

I'm Dr Samuel Hume, a historian of the British Empire, and my podcast, Pax Britannica, follows the people and events

0:21.4

that built those islands into a global superpower.

0:25.1

Learn the history of the British Empire by listening to Pax Britannica

0:28.5

everywhere you find your podcasts, or go to pod.link slash Pax.

0:34.2

Welcome to From Beneath the Hollywood Sign.

0:36.7

If you love old movies, Hollywood history, or the Golden age of filmmaking, you've come to the right place.

0:41.7

This is the podcast that talks about amazing stories of Tinseltown from another era and fascinating conversations with writer-producer Steve Kubine and actress writer Nan McNamara.

0:51.0

So Steve, did Ava Gardner and Howard Hughes have a good relationship?

0:55.5

Well, they did until he dislocated her jaw. What? Well, don't worry. She hit him back with an ashtray.

1:00.7

From beneath the Hollywood sign is the gin joint for you.

1:05.8

If you like this podcast, can we recommend another one? It's called Big Picture Science. You can hear it wherever

1:12.1

you get your podcast and its name tells part of the story. The big picture questions and the most

1:18.1

interesting research in science. Seth and I are the host. Seth is a scientist. I am Molly and I'm a

1:24.5

science journalist and we talk to people smarter than us and we have fun along the way.

1:29.3

The show is called Big Picture Science, and as Seth said, you can hear it wherever you get your podcast.

1:35.5

Hey, everyone, it's Eric. I've got a mono-oncore episode for you today. And honestly, this one is one of my all-time favorites. Karen Smith was such an

1:47.8

awesome guest, smart, articulate, a great storyteller. She's a longtime forensic detective with a ton

1:56.1

of experience, and she took on the 1935 Car Barnders, a case that's especially personal for her,

2:03.6

since one of the victims was her great-great-uncle.

2:06.8

I loved revisiting this conversation, and I think you are really going to enjoy it, too.

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