Money Talks: The Gambler Who Bet on Alibaba

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Investing, Business

4.3 • 988 Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2024

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

In this Money Talks: the man who would bet billions on a coin toss. Host Felix Salmon chats with Lionel Barber, whose new book Gambling Man: The Secret Story of the World’s Greatest Disruptor, Masayoshi Son reveals how the man who backed Alibaba became the world’s biggest maverick investor, throwing fortunes at enterprises that could either succeed spectacularly or go down in flames. Podcast production by Jared Downing and Cheyna Roth. Want more Slate Money? Join Slate Plus to unlock weekly bonus episodes. Plus, you’ll access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the Slate Money show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/moneyplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to Money Talks, the Slate Money Podcast where we talk to fascinating people
0:19.1	about fascinating things.
0:21.6	I'm Felix Hammond of Axios and joining us from London is the one and only
0:28.2	Lionel Barber. Lionel welcome. Nice to see you, Felix.
0:33.0	Linal, introduce yourself.
0:35.0	Who are you?
0:36.0	I am the author of the first Western biography of Masayoshi Son of Japan, one of the world's most consequential investors and I was for 14 years the editor of the Financial Times. the co-host of Media Confidential, the weekly podcast, the other co-host being
0:56.2	Alan Rusbiger, the longtime editor of The Guardian.
0:59.2	We are not going to talk about media on this show. This is a 100% master show. We are gonna talk about Massasan, the Korean other than Japanese, but also Japanese,
1:11.0	billionaire, investor, entrepreneur, risk-taker in the title of your book,
1:17.8	gambling man. We're going to talk about his bets, his personality, his upbringing, and how he has fared and where he stands today.
1:26.2	It's all coming up on Money Talks. Players of People's Post Code Lottery have raised over 1.4 billion pounds for good causes helping deliver good news for charities like Battice.
1:47.0	Ellen MacArthur Cancer Trust, Trussle, ending hunger together, and riding for the disabled association.
1:55.0	See, even Bobby says thanks.
1:58.0	Because what the world needs now is you.
2:00.0	PPL manages lotteries for 20 charities, a minimum of 33% of each ticket price goes to
2:04.4	charity not available in Northern Ireland. Conditions apply 18 plus.
2:09.1	We've talked a bit about Massa on this podcast, but as you say he is an incredibly important individual.
2:17.5	We can never have too much insight into him and you know him better than most people you talk to him what
2:25.5	like four times for this book four sit-down interviews went to Tokyo six times he blew me off twice saying he was too busy, but you know, after being
2:36.9	editor of the FT you need to learn a little bit of humility. And also, you know, he's like stalking a tiger.
2:44.0	Okay, so let's just start at the end, because I want to get back to the beginning in the middle,
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