Money Talks: The backlash against ESG
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The Economist
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🗓️ 20 July 2022
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
One of the hottest areas of investing in recent years has been ESG: using environmental, social, and governance metrics as ways to assess potential investments. But the idea that you can make profits with purpose has recently come under pressure. Elon Musk has called ESG a scam; German police have just launched “greenwashing” raids; and insiders are spilling the beans. For something with hints of a moral crusade, ESG is in danger of turning into an unholy mess.
On this week’s episode, hosts Alice Fulwood, Soumaya Keynes and Mike Bird investigate the problems plaguing ESG, and ask if the industry can survive. Blackrock’s former co-Chief Sustainability Officer Tariq Fancy explains why he decided the industry wasn’t fit for purpose. Lisa Woll, CEO of US SIF: The Forum for Sustainable and Responsible Investment, argues that the private sector has an important role to play alongside government policy. And Henry Tricks, the author of our special report on ESG, explains why he thinks the industry should focus solely on reducing emissions - and jettison the S and G.
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| 1:10.0 | In 2020, Desiree Fixler was hired to be the group |
| 1:12.8 | Sustainability Officer of the DWS Group, |
| 1:15.7 | a German asset manager affiliated with Deutsche Bank. |
| 1:18.4 | I joined to work with other ESG specialists across the platform |
| 1:24.9 | to align our principles, approach and strategies. |
| 1:29.2 | She's part of a cohort of investment advisors |
| 1:31.6 | in the environmental, social and governance industry, |
| 1:34.8 | tasked with combining investment profits with social purpose. |
| 1:38.4 | The challenge is that DWS-based is common across the asset management industry. |
| 1:44.4 | I mean, ESG is still nascent and it's super complex. |
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