Hello and welcome to Money Talks from Slate Money, the show where I, Felix Salmon, and occasionally my co-host, Emily Peck, will talk to the most interesting people in the world about the most interesting things in the world.

And right now, quite amazingly and wonderfully, we get to talk to

Barry Lamb about philosophy. This is a money show, I promise, but this is going to be a very

philosophical money show. Barry, welcome to Money Talks. I'm so happy to be here. You know,

philosophy's polarizing. Either you've turned it off or you're like,

oh, that's going to be great. Yeah. At this point, the only people still listening are the people who are

nerding out and going, this is really cool. So now we can just be total nerds. We are going to talk

about all manner of philosophical things and specifically how they apply to the current budget debate.

And we bring in some great philosophers, starting with Descartes and Hume and running all the way through Willard van Orman Quine and Saul Kripke and other wonderfully named people.

It's all coming up on Money Talks.

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