Hello and welcome to Money Talks from Slate Money. I'm Felix Salmon of Axios and this is the show

where I just talk to the most interesting people I know

and learn amazing, interesting things and kind of the most

interesting fun amazing person I know is that gauge. Zach welcome. Thank you.

It's very exciting to be on here.

It's super exciting and just introduce yourself because you are a

polymath of many amazingnesses, but just broadly speaking, who are you?

Ah, all right, I'm Jack Gage. I'm an artist and a game designer. I'm currently a co-founder of Pusmo which is sort of puzzle internet game company and I've been doing art and games and trying to help people become better problem solvers for like almost 15 years

now professionally and that's I guess me.

And you have designed some of the greatest games that I've ever played. We're going to talk about game

design and also the whole idea of games as a thing that you can actually be a

professional game designer and how the economics of games works. It's going to be awesome and

it's all coming up on money talks.

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