Hello and welcome to Money Talks, a special extra podcast from Slate Money, where we chat with brilliant and interesting people.

I'm Emily Peck. I'm a correspondent at Axios and co-host of Slate Money. And I'm here today with

Daryl Fairweather. She is chief economist at the real estate website Redfin and her new book is called

Hate the Game, Economic Cheat Codes for Life, Love, and Work. Welcome, Daryl. Hi, thank you

for having me. I'm really excited to talk to you about your book because I don't

often read like self-help career guides, I don't think. But yours is, it's like an economics lesson

tucked into a memoir with career tips kind of rolled into that. It's like you're getting an

economics lesson as you're sort of like learning about the career background of the chief

economist at Redfin.

So I really liked it.

Thank you.

So yeah, I want to talk to you about all of it.

And maybe if we have time, ask you about the housing market since that's what you're

thinking about all the time.

That sounds great.

And then we'll do all that when we come back on Slate Money.

Race the rudder.

Raise the sails.

Raise the sails.

Captain, an unidentified ship approaching.

Over.

Roger that.

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