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You're listening to Coin Desk's Money Reimagined with Michael Casey and Sheila Warren.

Hello and welcome to another edition of Money Reimagined.

I'm Michael Casey.

Listen to us weekly on the CoinDest Podcast Network or wherever you get your podcasts.

We would love to hear from you, so tell us what you think. You can email us at podcast at coin desk.com,

subject line, Money Reimagined.

Sheila is out this week, so it's me on my own, but what I'm bringing to you are recordings from an interview I did earlier this

month with two leaders in fund management, both of whom have significant interests in crypto.

One is Jan Van Eck, the CEO of Van Eck Funds, and the other is Matt Hogan, chief investment

officer at Bitwise Asset Management. Van Eck and Bitwise have both filed applications with the Securities

and Exchange Commission for a Bitcoin Exchange traded fund, otherwise known as an ETF. But rather than

enter into the parlor game of guessing when Gary Gensler's SEC will approve an ETF, I decided to

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