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A Thousand Natural Shocks With Gabe S. Dunn

Money, Misinformation, Crime & Conspiracy

A Thousand Natural Shocks With Gabe S. Dunn

Gabe Dunn | Diamond MPrint Productions

History, Education, News, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Self-improvement, Personal Journals

4.5 • 2.6K Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2021

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to Season 8! This season we're doing things a little differently: each episode, we're going to talk to both experts and to friends of mine with lived experience in the same topic. Get to know me, get to know my buddies from my real life! Our first topic is monetizing fake news, data voids, and how ads work for Facebook and Google misinformation. Gaby talks to MIT Review reporter Abby Ohlheiser about how people make millions of dollars -- merch, speaker fees, Patreons, etc. -- by spreading misinformation. Then, Gaby interviews their friends Ali Segel and Melissa Stetten, co-hosts of the conspiracy theory podcast Web Crawlers, about ethically profiting from crime and conspiracy. Plus, why Flat Earthers are ~the worst!~ This episode includes discussion of suicide, child porn, cults, police, Alex Jones, transphobia, medical conspiracies, and conspiracies surrounding school shootings. Please take care while listening. For a transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qcgPGuEFw_XBI_4amr9qs1cWuXLsKzb5a_ZwNx26euY/ Follow Bad With Money on Instagram: @bwmpod Follow Gaby Dunn on Instagram: @gabyroad Shop gabydunn.com/shop for merch! Follow Abby Ohlheiser on Twitter: @AbbyOhlheiser Follow Ali Segal on Twitter: @OnlineAlison Follow Ali Segal on Instagram: @AliBaby90 Follow Melissa Stetten on Twitter: @MelissaStetten Follow Melissa Stetten on Instagram @MelissaStetten Bad with Money is produced and edited by Lindsey Floyd. It is sound engineered and mixed by Joey Salvia. The Executive Producer is Lindsey Floyd. The theme song was performed by Sam Barbara and written by Myq Kaplan, Zach Sherwin, and Jack Dolgen. Additional music by Joey Salvia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Transcript

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0:00.0

You got problems that you ought to be concerned with, blah, you don't know how you're supposed to earn it or what to do with it or how to keep it.

0:08.0

You're a freak with a dark shame, full secret, but you're nothing.

0:12.0

Only one, feature in financial fears with a blast of sun.

0:16.0

Now your healing has begun, it's bad with money with Gabby.

0:22.0

Done. Hello, I'm Gabby Dunn and welcome to Bad With Money.

0:26.0

The show is changing or rather going back a little bit.

0:30.0

We ran the numbers and listened to feedback and for the first time ever in my life, it turns out people want to hear my voice.

0:39.0

Not just my thoughts and opinions, no, no, no, my actual literal voice.

0:45.0

So we're going to take the show back to the personal.

0:48.0

I'm going to talk more, I'm going to talk more to my friends, I'm going to have more to say, I'm going to talk more about how I feel about each topic.

0:54.0

We're going to learn what's going on with me and the people I know and love in my life.

0:59.0

Each week we'll cover a topic by speaking to an expert on housing, neurodivergence, dress code, sex, and then flip it around and talk to one of my friends or loved ones with lived experience on that topic.

1:10.0

Get to know me more, get to know my buddies, get to see how these issues play out in real life.

1:16.0

So this season's premiere is about making money off misinformation.

1:22.0

There are all kinds of influencers working on the internet these days.

1:25.0

You could say I'm a financial influencer, although you, but there are mommy influencers, wellness influencers, comedy influencers, which I think used to be called comedians, cleaning influencers, etc., etc.

1:37.0

But what once used to live in the corners of the web or on coast to coast AM radio can now make you a conspiracy theory influencer.

1:46.0

The stated problem in 2016 was that individual bad actors with no personal stake in the truth or outcome and or individuals paid by foreign governments were posting fake news stories online.

1:59.0

The idea was for these websites and stories to look professional and legit enough to fool older people or anyone with a predisposition that let them believe this is what was happening.

2:09.0

One example I found was like, US Navy SEALs acting under the direction of former President Donald Trump arrested Hillary Clinton today.

2:17.0

Didn't happen, but that headline wouldn't seem conspiratorial.

2:22.0

It could get clicks and shares and posts on Facebook and make its weight and gold in Google Adsense revenue.

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