You're listening to the Money Clinic on the BBC World Service, part of money and power,

a major new season of programs and features, exploring how our lives are shaped and reshaped by money and the power that it wields.

In this programme we're putting money and relationships under the spotlight.

We're extravagant.

Our goal seem not to be aligned.

It can be goal seem not to be aligned.

It can be hard to talk about money, even with those we're closest to, and that can turn into a big problem.

My mother, she sacrificed so much,

so whatever she asks, it's hard to say no.

We can't say we don't have money or we are paying alone. It's a hard place to be.

We're going to listen to couples discussing their issues with an expert who's a life coach and money and relationship specialist.

Money is about power and control.

They'll be trying to get a better understanding of their finances, their emotions, and one another.

If just said like my thoughts.

Thank you for helping me tell him to let it go. I'm Ruth Alexander and I've come to the capital of Kenya, Nairobi, home to around 4 million

people. The city has a growing middle class, but to make a good life here,

people often have second jobs or a side hustle as it's known,

and financial pressures can have an impact on people's personal relationships.

So we're making families appointments with Jenny Karina.

Someone said that there is no romance without finance.

And whether that is true or not, what I can say is that actually it is documented that over 75% of couples end up in divorce

because of money conflict. Money is a very emotional topic. Would you say

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