My name is Stan. I'm at. Nice to meet you. So you took up photography where? I've always loved

photography but I turn it into earning a living at 60. I enrolled on a day course.

Well college. I loved going to college. It's good you can retry. I'm enrolled on the day course. But college?

I loved going to college.

It's good you can retrain and do something.

Yeah, yeah.

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Christmas but it does seem to be kind of business as usual for the Tories.

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every door of their advent calendar at the moment. So Michelle Moen is the focus as

it stands in the in the news cycle. She's admitted she lied to the media over her links to

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bit touchy legally and the firm in question is being investigated by the National Crime Agency.

But what might play out from this on a practical level, but also politically what impact could it have?

Yeah, I mean I don't think we need to go into details actually to comment on just the tone and the extraordinary intention behind that interview which seemed to be we are the real victims here.

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