Hey everyone. Welcome to Conversations that Matter's Cell Phone Edition. I just got out of the gym that's why I look the way I do.

But my house is kind of a mess right now. It's just before we're moving and there's boxes everywhere.

And it's a small apartment, so you can imagine things get a little crowded

when we're running from room to room trying to box things up.

And so I'm just, I'm giving a little space right now for my wife and I'm gonna do the

podcast just with my phone out here and it's it's gonna be a short one by the way some of, some of you making fun of me for saying

something short and then go in 50 minutes. That's short. If it's under an hour it's

short, I'm just hoping you know that. That's my standard for sure. So I need to come up with another

word for when it's really short. I could say really short but maybe like a

micro podcast that's what we're doing here so that you have your mega

editions which are like that's the That's what we're doing here. So that you have your mega editions,

which are like, that's the three hour long,

two and a half hour long podcast that's in depth on something.

There's a few of those that I have.

I do have some podcast that I think approach like two and a half hours.

I don't do that so much anymore because I'm putting out so many of them.

I just can't sit there every day for that long.

And then and of course if it's I think an hour to me an hour 45

minutes that that should be that's that's a good length if it's over an hour

I'd say it's kind of a little longer if it's under an hour it's over an hour, I'd say it's kind of a little longer.

If it's under an hour, it's shorter.

So it's short if it's under an hour.

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