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Hey, this is Annie.

And Samantha.

And welcome to Steph One Ever Told You, a production of IHeart Radio.

And welcome to another holiday Monday mini.

And it's not a happy one.

I guess I should put this in.

I think this is just a conversation.

We've had many conversations like this.

So not necessarily trigger warning. We're not doing anything deep and dark, but, you know,

we know holidays are stressful. So if family

talking about family is stressful, you can save this one.

I'm going to say that. And today is

December 4th, 2025 as we're recording it. So

I just want to put this time stamp because we know this is

ever changing in conversation. And I feel like we're taking terms like no contact, narcissism

and all of that, and really having a field day on who or what that is talking about and who's

allowed to use these terms weirdly, I know, but

it changes. So with that, yeah, there's that timestamp. But we are talking about no

context. So it's the holidays again, and that comes with a lot of mixed feelings, emotions,

stress, all the above. And interestingly, people seem to have a lot of thoughts on going no contact

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