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Moms Demand Action Founder on What It Takes to Lead Change

HBR IdeaCast

Harvard Business Review

Leadership, Entrepreneurship, Communication, Marketing, Business, Business/management, Management, Business/marketing, Business/entrepreneurship, Innovation, Hbr, Strategy, Economics, Finance, Teams, Harvard

4.41.9K Ratings

🗓️ 24 June 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Whether you're a manager trying to move your organization in a new direction, an entrepreneur seeking to fix a consumer pain point, or a non-profit leader working to improve society, it can be hard to turn your and others' passion for a cause into meaningful change. Shannon Watts, the founder of Moms Demand Action, a gun safety advocacy group, shares how she channeled her anger over U.S. school shootings into an organization with more than 10 million supporters and a string of policy victories. She explains how to know when your desires, values, and skills align to tackle a challenge, how to build a coalition, and how to keep people motivated, Watts is the author of the book Fired Up: How to Turn Your Spark into a Flame and Come Alive at Any Age.

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0:04.2

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0:27.2

I'm Alison Beard.

0:38.8

And I'm Adi Ignatius, and this is the HBR Ideacast.

0:49.0

Adi, we are going to talk today about how to make change, whether it's in your organization or a problem

0:56.2

that you see out in the world that you want to fix as an entrepreneur or something that you'd

1:00.8

like to see happen differently in society. You were a senior leader for a really long time,

1:06.8

but I think even from that perch, affecting change is really hard, right?

1:12.6

Yeah, look, I love this topic.

1:14.2

As a senior leader, I learned that to drive a new initiative, to introduce something dramatically new, I had to really own it.

1:22.2

I had to really drive it.

1:23.6

And most importantly, I had to sustain it.

1:25.9

It's easy to get that initial passion and that initial buy-in, but you need processes

1:30.5

and continuing energy to really keep something going for the long term where it makes a difference.

1:35.8

And so our guest today has lots of personal experience with this.

1:39.3

She is Shannon Watts, the founder of Mom's Demand Action, which is the nonprofit organization in the United

1:45.6

States that pushes for gun safety legislation. She didn't consider herself to be a leader or a changemaker

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