Hello everyone. I'm very excited that we have the incredible psychotherapist

and trauma specialist Brit Frank on the show and I love this

conversation with Brit she speaks so frankly no pun intended about really complex

subjects that can feel quite heavy but in a very light and relatable way.

So this episode covers like how to own our shadow aspects.

We talk a lot about the science of Stuck, which is her book and how to get out of your own way and about all the parts of us that kind of we

possess all the elements all the estranged parts that we need to reclaim basically and the way she explains it is super

accessible and interesting and relatable and we also talk about

procrastination we talk about addiction and this thing that keeps coming up again and again of internal family systems therapy.

So if you guys want to explore these kind of subjects, the full episode with Brit goes live tomorrow and I hope you

enjoy as much as I enjoyed having this conversation.

Can we talk about procrastination for a bit because it's something that I definitely struggle with and kind of I'm like a joke about like a professional procrastinator but I don't really I've never really unpacked like where it's from or what it's about because you've mentioned it a couple of times and also when I was like reading about you and stuff it came up a lot so what what does like procrastination mean to you in terms of

where it's from and people get mad at me with this too they're like oh you're just

justifying people doing nothing I'm like no, no, it's not justification.

I'm explaining it.

Explanation is not a synonym for an excuse.

It's like, here's what's happening.

So why do we procrastinate?

There's lots of reasons, none of which

are because we suck or because we're lazy.

We procrastinate because we're exhausted and we're burnt out.

And the expectation that we have of us does not match

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