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Hello my friends Dennis Prager here and this is what we call on the show a history hour because

if you don't know what happened before then you don't understand what's happening now

I think it's the most important subject that people can study to understand the world in which

we live and that's the reason for the dedication of these times and shows to some great work of

history as I consider this book moment of battle the 20 clashes that change the world.

Yeah war changes the world indeed the author is James Lacey is published quite a number of

books he's a defense analysis he's written for time national review foreign affairs he teaches

at the Marine Corps war college James Lacey welcome to the Dennis Prager show.

I'm thank you for having me pleasure to be here thank you very much was it hard to choose the

20 I mean you had to disqualify another 20 at least we actually considered it putting at the

end of the book but talked ourselves out of it a list of another hundred battles to explain why

we didn't put them in there oh you shouldn't have talked yourselves out by the way it is multiple

it's James Lacey and Williams and Murray so I just want people to understand that James Lacey is

not talking in the royal way okay oh try not thank you yeah we we sat down we added pretty

strict criteria which we tried to maintain the entire time with reasonable success I think that

we were looking for battles that have created the world where we live in that we still feel the

effects of those battles today human society still feels the effects of those battles today

that was one of the criteria right so wow I think that's the biggest of the criteria now within

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