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How do we tread that line?

You know, I think my generation of mothers, I'm really noticing, are becoming more and more

empowered, more and more aware of their worth and what they deserve. How do you get that line right

between lowering expectations and embracing that disappointment? And then on the other side,

I say, no, actually, I cannot handle

that this marriage now does not feel enough for me. It doesn't feel alive enough for me.

It doesn't feel passionate enough for me. How on earth do you begin to unpack that line so

that you're not settling? You don't have that feeling of the settling as opposed to what you might want,

which is that sort of deeper love or truer love or more vulnerable love.

Do you know what I mean?

I'm not asking the question very succinctly.

No, no, you're quite rightly sort of challenging me about an issue for women of putting up with things that they shouldn't put

up with. That's it. That's what I'm trying to say. Because if we say, well, let's just lower

our expectations. Well, yeah, but what do we deserve as women as mothers? And what are we

modelling? Because all the time, as we talked about the top of the conversation, we're blueprinting for the little eyes that are watching.

It's tricky, isn't it?

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