What do you like as a leader?

Because leadership has evolved over the last 10, 20 years

from the Steve Jobs days where you've got this tire

and that from what I've heard.

So, so hard to deal with that they put him in his own building.

And only people could work in that building

if they were really resilient.

I had all these stories.

I spoke to Wes.

It wasn't to tell me that.

It was the closest I've ever got to Steve Jobs.

But leadership and the concept of what a leader looks like

and how they behave and how they treat people

in a post internet world where we have the ability

to speak up because we can tweet and glass door

and one of these things.

Leadership, leadership has changed.

Our perceptions of how they behave

in a post pandemic world leaders are much more vulnerable

because I think a lot of them had to be really vulnerable

during the pandemic to guide their teams through.

What, if I asked your teams,

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