Sometimes in life you have these unbelievable, somewhat cruel coincidences that occur, that

it's hard to make sense of. And last time you came on this podcast, I would define it

as for me anyway, a pretty cruel coincidence because we had a conversation to do with life

generally and success and the mindset and psychology and all the things that you're

an expert on. And for whatever reason that day I decided that I wanted to spend 30 minutes

talking about marriage, cheating, love and asking you these very personal questions about

monogamy, which I've never done before with any guest ever. And which I really had no

place or reason to ask you more than anyone else. And it just feels to me for what we're

going to talk about in part today that that was a bit of a cruel coincidence. And you know,

one of the questions I asked you was, do you believe in monogamy? And then I asked you,

can you love someone and cheat on them? And when I listened to that podcast back, I

now noticed why you laughed because it wasn't you laughed, yeah, and it wasn't a normal

laugh. It was like a real belly laugh. Yeah, like a bit of a nervous belly laugh. After

we came off air on that podcast, you told me something. And it even gives me goosebumps

now thinking about what you said. And it gave the whole team in the room who overheard

our conversation, goosebumps as well. So after our 30 minute conversation about marriage

and monogamy and cheating and love, what did you say to me?

I told you a story, yeah, and that was about two weeks earlier, I'd been traveling back

from London home. And I got out of the train station and my wife picked me up and we got

into the car. And we had planned to go and have a brunch at my favorite little spot to

do amazing. Quarvel's Rancho sauce was very spicy. And she said, let's go straight

home, I've made sandwiches. And she doesn't make great sandwiches. So I said, I don't know,

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