Paul, your husband Paul, been together since 1995.

I think you met him at Birmingham.

He was like the star player.

How has that been, you know, being such a career driven person

who's had these fairly all-consuming jobs throughout the years?

You know what's funny?

Well, there's an interesting thing that happens in the comments section

because I ask every single guest, every single podcast about relationships.

It's what's something I'm just really intrigued by because I've struggled over the years

with my work in trying to balance the relationship.

But when I ask women this, people look, again, I understand why.

They assume that I'm asking it because for the same reasons we've just described,

like I'm trying to understand how you can be a wife but also hardworking.

So I just want to put that out there because I see a lot of the person.

But now I'm really curious, you know, you've been this pretty relentlessly on Chopin-Hair

for the last three decades, whatever it's been.

How has it been to manage a relationship and be that person and a partner

while also being the tremendous businesswoman?

Well, you have to remember that we've been married a very long time.

And when we first got together, Paul's career was much more dominant than mine, really.

And he was travelling around playing at different clubs,

playing for his country.

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