in your book you talk about embracing radical incrementalism.

What does that mean for you?

This is the idea that there are contexts where really being willing

to make progress on the basis of little and often, right?

Kind of gradual progress to do a tiny bit at a time

and not kind of binging on the things you're trying to achieve

can be really powerful.

Again, I'm sorry to keep going back to writing as an example,

but the work that I'm drawing on there from a psychologist

called Robert Boyce who studied academics who write

and trying to figure out who are the ones who actually get

a ton of papers published and a ton of books written

and who are the ones who get mired in procrastination

and paralysis.

And he found that the really productive people in that sphere

were the ones who made writing a modest part of their daily life,

right? They'd occupied like a couple of hours maybe,

as opposed to the ones who made it into this huge thing

that then became very intimidating and they got all sort

of like psychodramas going on with it because it was something

they were willing to sort of do for a little bit, leave a side,

come back to, and I think this applies to, especially applies

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