What you've gone on to doing your career in life and the crusade you've led is not one

that would, you know, one would think would be led by a shy person.

The person that I've met today doesn't seem to be a shy person necessarily.

To me, it seems to be one of conviction and confidence and belief.

In hindsight, how did you go from being that shy person that was kind of coddled at

the early age by a mother that was a risked verse, a juror circle around you in the

sand didn't let you off the front garden to being the person you are today?

What is it that, what is it that does that to somebody?

Well, I think there's a few things around this because I don't think this is exclusive

to me.

I think a lot of women especially experienced this.

I think, well, first of all, I might be wrong, but I don't think we're born shy.

I think it's our situational environment that creates that.

And secondly, you can be shy but still have fire in your belly, which is what I had.

You know, I had that ambition and that burning desire.

And when you have that passion, you have to release it.

You can't keep it inside just because you're shy.

And I think there were many things that I did.

You know, I remember in my very early 20s holding a conference, my first conference for

my army of sales ambassadors, which I had about 500 in my first year.

For and summers.

For and summers, yes.

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