You've got two businesses, two key businesses.

And when you run a business, when you're young, irrespective of age, you undergo a couple

of things, real like unexpected chaos at any given moment, then also a tremendous amount

of sacrifice.

I actually wanted to start on the sacrifice piece because I don't think people, as you

said earlier, get to fully see the full picture of sacrifice and cost, both personal and

professional and whatever.

So talk to me about some of the sacrifice that even you didn't expect before you got

into business and before your business grew.

I think that at the same time as I kind of benefited hugely from having money at university,

for example, I also went to university expecting one thing and then actually sent it, essentially

getting up at X hour working on university stuff because I never ever, ever wanted to

give them an excuse to think that I wasn't concentrating fully on my university and

then working all the way, essentially, way into the night to get the other stuff done.

And I also, you know, that comes with being high profile that comes with all of these

things.

So I guess one of those things was very much like there was the time and the life experience

and all of that, that because things took off quickly at one stage, even if it wasn't

like it wasn't that the businesses took off, you know, the businesses have done much

more over the past year and a half or whatever when I haven't been at uni.

But at that point, you know, the high profile, all of that, that came with, I guess, different

tool I was expecting and, or not what I was expecting, I wasn't expecting it at all.

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