From the front lines of the mom wars, here's Bethany Mandel and Kara Kennedy.

Hello and welcome to another episode of your favorite podcast. I am your American co-host, Bethany Mandel.

I am a homeschooling mom of six and a frequent contributor to the Washington Examiner and the New York Post. And I am

joined by my beautiful, very pregnant co-host. There's nothing beautiful about me. Carrey Kennedy,

who is increasingly depressed and sad and pregnant. Are you depressed and sad because you're pregnant?

Yeah, I'm just so pregnant now.

It's just I just forgot how bad it was.

Yeah.

And what do you do besides be pregnant?

Not much right now.

Order a lot of Amazon deliveries, take on a lot of work that I probably shouldn't be taking

it on right now.

You can read me in the free press and increasingly in the telegraph, which is kind of fun.

That's exciting.

Yeah.

And we are joined by a very old friend of mine from, golly, 15 years ago. I think possibly more. I don't

even know. So, so long. So Erica Anderson is a freelance writer and the author of the new book

freely sober, which is why we're here and why we're having this conversation. But you also wrote a book

that had the word clouds in it.

Yes, my first book was called Leaving Cloud Nine.

Yes, I knew there was nine in there too.

Yes, leaving Cloud Nine.

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