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You start realizing that all the fears you had or all the things you built in your head are just not

true. Those narratives aren't true, and your kids aren't as fragile as you think, and

but with your first kid, you're just for the test run. Yeah, it's not a test run, but it's like,

yeah, you're sort of judging yourself as a parent and you don't know, and so you're operating

for a place of fear and lack of knowledge. I have that same theory, and I think Aiden is right.

We have test babies, and I spend the most amount of time apologizing to that child for having to

learn on her. Welcome to Hold Me Back, the son-father podcast that's committed to bridging the growing

generational divide. My name is Aiden, I'm a Gen Zier, and I'm his dad Ash. I'm a Gen Xer. Join us

as we negotiate a new contract between our generations. Each episode will have a spirited and healthy

debate on a different topic that's impacting how I'm growing up to see. And sometimes not so healthy

debate. You are a teenager. You're such a boomer. I'm actually not. Whatever. Seriously. Once again,

Dad, you're holding me back. You know, we have episodes that we say are our most difficult or take

the most research, or et cetera, et cetera, but I think this one is actually one of the most fun

ones we've had so far. Well, I'm assuming you're saying that Aiden, because you got out of what,

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