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trusted by parents nationwide. This is literally like we're just having coffee. Like people

always get nervous to come on the podcast and I'm like honestly like it's just like we're just

chatting having a coffee. Like I think people, like you said, it's like a job

interview. Like, it's going to be like this structured. Like, here's my first question for you. You have five minutes to answer. Like, no, it's like totally not like that at all. Oh, that's the whole point of a mom chat. And like, I was legit wearing a different shirt before that was black just to kind of help with the tone on the screen. And then I was like, yo, this is the shirt that I would wear for a job interview. Like in homage of Renee, I'm going to put on a band t-shirt and feel like myself, especially since the topic we're going to be talking about today. Like I was like, you know, I got to feel like myself. Yeah. And see, you're in a band t-shirt. I got the Raptors going. So it's, I didn't even wash my hair. It's just up in a bun. That looks great. I had to wash my hair because if I don't every day. Plus, I was like, if I got to feel good today, I may as well shower. Yeah. Which is a hard thing to do when you've got a four-month-old. Oh, yeah. For sure. Do you just have one? No. So my son is three. Okay. Actually, they're born a day apart. So he's three in four months, and she's four months. Okay. I've got two. That's a lot.

Yeah.

I feel like when Milo turned four, maybe like three and a half, four is when I started

like, wow, like this is getting a little bit easier.

And like the days are not so daunting with regard to like he's more independent like

he i can go upstairs and like blow dry my hair while he's watching bluey down here you know what i

mean where yeah when they're younger like you cannot do anything without watching them and like taking

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