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🗓️ 2 February 2024
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Zibby is joined by debut author Molly Roden Winter to discuss MORE, an electric, intimate, and unputdownable memoir of love, desire, motherhood, and self-fulfillment that follows a happily married mother as she explores sex and relationships outside her marriage. Molly describes the intimate details of her unconventional journey into an open marriage and then delves into how she has grappled with societal expectations and judgments, family commitments, personal desires, and honoring her most authentic self. As she shares moments of vulnerability, heartbreak, and growth, you’ll undoubtedly reflect on your own perceptions of love and marriage.
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Moms Don't Have Time to Read Books with Zivie. I'm the host, Zivie Owens. I am an author. My latest is blank, |
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0:33.5 | Molly Road in Winter is the author of Moore, a memoir of open marriage. Molly was raised in |
0:38.9 | Evanston, Illinois, and lives in Park Slope, Brooklyn, with her husband and two part-time roommates, |
0:44.6 | also known as her sons. Her personal essays have appeared in New York Magazine, Motherwell, |
0:50.0 | and Panduris. She is half of the guitar playing songwriting duo House of Mirth. Welcome, Molly. |
0:56.9 | Thank you so much for coming on moms. Don't have time to read books to discuss more, a memoir |
1:00.7 | of Open Marriage. Thank you for having me. It's my pleasure. I have to say I was reading this, |
1:07.2 | you know, I could not put this book down. And I was reading it like one Sunday. |
1:10.8 | My husband's like watching all this football. And he looked over like kind of annoyed. He's like, |
1:14.8 | oh yeah? How's that book? A lot of conversations I think are going to start as a result of this book. |
1:23.2 | And conversations go a long way, I have to say. I felt like then this weekend I showed him. I was like, remember when I was just reading this book? Now look, it's in the New York Times. See, it's like a big deal. This book, I'm not just like looking for an open marriage. I mean, if I was, that would be fine. No judgment. I'm just saying I don't happen to be looking for that with him. But anyway, um, so he was like, oh, look at that. I'm glad you said that because I also, |
1:49.3 | it's really important to me that I convey to folks that I am not proselytizing. I don't think |
1:55.1 | all we need in this world is if everybody were polyamorous. I mean, that is not my message here. |
2:00.7 | And so I'm glad that you felt |
2:03.1 | like it spoke to you even without being necessarily interested in non-monogamy. |
2:08.1 | Well, there's so much in your story simply about motherhood and desire and trying to marry those two aspects of yourself, keeping marriage. |
2:20.8 | Like, how do we preserve our marriages and ourselves and our kids? |
2:25.2 | Like, it's such a mishmash. |
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