I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekinguena show.

Thomas, hey, how are you doing?

I'm doing very well.

Thanks for hosting me.

Of course.

Well, this is a subject that came out of a Twitter conversation, but it's a subject that I've talked about a lot in the past.

And I know you have some very strong opinions on.

So let's get into this.

Let's talk about the police.

The thing to keep in mind is that modern policing, it's as structured like as we conceptualize it here in the united

states as a subject of recent vintage people seem to this idea i mean there's all kinds

of mythologies around the modern state that somewhat deliberately have been cultivated, that they try and seem it into people, this idea

that these features are perennial, like structurally, I mean, as well as ethically, when they're not.

So when you raise the issue with people that modern policing is kind of run its course and it's kind of being phased out, like people seem to think one of two things.

If they don't know me and are particularly sophisticated on, you know, political sociology and things like that, they have this idea that I'm forwarding some, you know, some minor gift argument.

Like, I want the police to go away and they don't have a mandate.

I'm not saying that.

I mean, that whether those are true or not doesn't matter.

Or they think of suggesting that this kind of lump and revolt, however, contrived and, you know,

cultivated by organized political interests, it's just going to be like, you know,

like public frustration is going to be such that, you know, police departments become so kind

of gilded and defanged, verbally speaking, that they can no longer implement the mandate, the mandate that they've been granted. I'm not saying that either. Okay. Like, what I'm saying is that in structural terms, this is something that's run its course.

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