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Planet Money

Modern Monetary Theory (Classic)

Planet Money

NPR

News, Business

4.630.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2021

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

We rethink everything we know about government spending, taxes, and the nature of money.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Planet Money from NPR.

0:06.4

When you scroll down in President Joe Biden's stimulus package and you look at all the bullet

0:10.4

points, there is money for so many things.

0:14.1

More money for unemployment, more money for state and local governments, money to help

0:18.4

schools open, money to bail out state and local governments.

0:22.7

There is a lot in there.

0:24.4

And the total price tag is $1.9 trillion.

0:29.1

And this is at a time when a federal government is already spending trillions more dollars a

0:34.5

year than it is taking in in taxes.

0:38.0

Federal debt is already more than $20 trillion.

0:41.8

So this raises the question, how is the government going to pay for it?

0:47.2

But there is a school of thought that says, wrong question, wrong way to think about it.

0:54.0

This wing of economics calls itself modern monetary theory, MMT.

0:58.8

We covered it two years ago, back when other presidential candidates were suggesting other

1:03.0

expensive programs like Medicare for all, free college and a jobs guarantee.

1:08.0

And those didn't happen, but with spending shooting up this way of thinking about economics

1:12.6

was gaining some traction.

1:14.4

So with more spending on the horizon now, here is our episode from 2018 on modern monetary

1:20.8

theory.

1:22.0

We got a brilliant question on our Planet Money Twitter account recently.

1:26.2

A question that spawned this entire episode.

1:29.3

I asked my dad about a question and he said he couldn't answer it.

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