Modern Democracy with Daniel Ziblatt and Steven Levitsky

Here's Where It Gets Interesting

Sharon McMahon

Government, History, Storytelling, Education

4.9 • 15.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

American democracy is going through a rough patch, and the Constitution, for all its brilliance, has some flaws that limit the power of majorities. So why haven’t we made any real reforms in over 50 years? And what are other democracies doing to fight authoritarianism? Sharon sits down with Harvard government professors, Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt, to discuss their book, Tyranny of the Minority. They explore how past democracies have failed, and find the striking pattern that political minorities often wield power over political majorities. Credits: Host and Executive Producer: Sharon McMahon Supervising Producer: Melanie Buck Parks Audio Producer: Craig Thompson To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:06.2	Hey friends, welcome, delighted to have you with me today.
1:14.5	My guests are Harvard government professors, Stephen Levitsky and Daniel Zublat, and we are talking about what tyranny of the minority means. And do we have it in the United States?
1:22.3	Important question. So let's dive in. I'm Sharon McMahon. And here's where it gets interesting.
1:31.1	I read your first book, How Democracies Die, and was very excited to read Tyranny of the Minority.
1:38.2	Thank you both so much for making time to be here today.
1:40.9	Happy to be here.
1:41.5	Great to be with you.
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