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Arts & Ideas

BBC

Society & Culture

4.2599 Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2020

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

The German joker Tyll Ulenspiegel. Anne McElvoy with best selling novelist Daniel Kehlmann plus Prof Karen Leeder who has been looking at changing versions of the Dresden bombing.

Daniel Kehlmann's new book is called Tyll, translated by Ross Benjamin. A Netflix TV series has been commissioned. His book Measuring The World about mathematician Carl Friedrich Gauss and German geographer Alexander von Humboldt became the world's second best-selling novel in 2006. Professor Karen Leeder teaches at the University of Oxford. She has translated Porzellan: Poem vom Untergang meiner Stadt by Durs Grünbein, coming out as Durs Grünbein, Porcelain: Poem on the Downfall of my City and has been reading a new history of Dresden by Sinclair Mackay called Dresden: The Fire and the Darkness. You can hear her contributing to a discussion on Radio 3's The Verb about German poetry after the Fall of the Berlin Wall https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000b7x0

You can find Anne McElvoy talking to Susan Neimann about tolerance, censorship and free speech and lessons from German history https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0008hvz to novelists Florian Huber and Sophie Hardach about New angles on post war German history https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0006sjx to Neil McGregor about Germany https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b079mcgf

Dr Tom Smith lectures in German at the University of St Andrews. Dr Dina Rezk lectures on Middle East History at the University of Reading. They are both New Generation Thinkers on the scheme run by the BBC in partnership with the Arts and Humanities Research Council to work with academics to share their research on radio. You can find more examples of their work on the Free Thinking programme website.

Producer: Paula McGinley

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the home of the oxymoron. Evil genius. He asked the newspaper to print his obituary early so he'd enjoy it. That's like hiding at your own funeral. Yeah, a big, great gig. I'm Russell Kane. Join me to weigh in on whether the biggest players in history are more evil or genius. Becoming that rich, I'd say that is some level of genius. It also helps

0:21.2

it. It's a long time ago, right? It's like the podcast version of telling your kids the ice cream

0:26.1

van plays music when it's out of ice cream. Listen to evil genius on BBC Sounds.

0:33.3

BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts. Hello and thanks for listening to this Arts and Ideas podcast from the BBC.

0:41.2

In this episode, we'll be looking at how jokers in Germany and Egypt have held truth to power

0:46.4

and whether comedy can help us navigate difficult periods of history.

0:50.3

It's all in the way I tell them.

0:51.8

But before that, have a listen to this.

0:54.1

An American capitalist, a Russian before that, have a listen to this.

0:59.3

An American capitalist, a Russian tax advisor and a breathtaking heist.

1:04.4

You're saying fraudsters have stolen more than quarter of a billion dollars from the Russian state.

1:10.3

Based on a true story, a musical about doing the right thing at any cost.

1:13.8

Mr. Nizki, if we changed our mind.

1:16.8

Stand up and fight for justice, stand up for the law.

1:20.5

If we don't stand for this, then what is it we're for?

1:26.0

Magnitsky, the musical by Johnny Flynn and Robert Hudson on BBC Radio 3.

1:27.6

Why are you telling my story?

1:30.0

Because you were unbreakable.

1:32.9

Available now on BBC Sounds.

1:39.0

Hello, the wise fool is a powerful figure in literature,

1:40.6

holding truth to power,

1:43.7

challenging authority with a wink and inviting the reader to laugh at uncomfortable truths.

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