Hello. Hello. Hello. You putt to win the game. That's a great thing about sports. You putt to win the game.

All right, welcome to the new pod to win the game. I am Charles Robinson. I am here with the reigning draft king champion of all time.

Josh Norris of underdog fantasy. I've been looking forward to this show for I mean, since we ate last had you on, but also two weeks ago. Well, listen, since since the last draft, we'll put it down. Okay, since the last draft, because I was like, I know that guy, like I know this guy who nailed 16 of 20, excuse me, 16 of 32 players to the correct team last year, which is unbelievable.

Well, no combine. Okay. Last year, I could not think of anyone better, but who also has more pressure on him to live up now to his reputation. Then Josh Norris in a draft that a long time evaluator, who I really think a lot of his opinion told me today, he said he believes this is the least predictable draft of all time.

Josh, are you prepared to set us all straight and tell us what's going to happen your crystal ball.

Well, Charles, if you just type in NFL mock draft in the Google machine, 29.2 million results pop up. Imagine having the greatest mock draft of all time. This is what happened.

Like you said, no combine last year, we thrive in the chaos. We dig through the mud. We try to find, you know, the truth in all the smoke screens. I think there's a lot of it out there.

I'm totally with you that last year was actually looking back on a fairly easy to predict. There's only about 12 or 13 or 14 names I could go in the top 10.

I felt like a lot of this year's top 10 was turned on its head of the last few days, but I stepped on it, had some piffenies, some visions, and I'm ready to find what is going to happen here in about, I don't know, 48 hours from now.

So Charles, I'm excited for the show. I always love joining you.

I know I'm extremely happy to have you here. It's great. I mean, it's, it's, we're old friends and, you know, I've always thought a lot of you as a draft evaluator.

Last last year was not a surprise to me. There was for me. We've, I've always enjoyed, you know, kind of sharing notes. And as we've gotten closer talking about some information, we might as well do it on the podcast.

And another thing too, though, that's, that's, it's not just the player class. It's that there's a multitude of teams that have two first round picks, a multitude of teams that don't have any first round picks.

So you start to talk about, hey, potentially trade scenarios, everything's going to be how the board falls.

I talked to one team that was like pretty squarely in the middle of the draft. I said, hey, I hear you guys might move up.

He was like, how the hell, how the hell do I know? He's like, I don't know what the draft's going to look like. He's like, yeah, we, if a certain player starts to, you know, slide.

I could see us moving. He said, but I can also see us going. Now we got to trade back because nobody's nobody's there.

On top of Charles, the, the jets having two first rounders, the Texans, the Giants, we can keep going, you know, fillings and the Eagles.

There are also two teams that just absolutely suck, you know, like the Houston Texans roster is abysmal.

And so you can't really try to align. Oh, they have a clear need at these three positions with the strength of the draft in the top 10 at these three positions.

They can go at seven different positions. And that makes what we're trying to do difficult because at least, and maybe this is something that's just recently biased.

I don't know if we've seen two worse rosters at this point of like the draft process that also have like top 10 picks in a class that doesn't have any quarterbacks that they're going to be taking.

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