4.8 • 20.6K Ratings
🗓️ 7 December 2022
⏱️ 10 minutes
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Mo talks with Leslie Uggams, the award-winning and boundary-breaking entertainer. On the Mitch Miller Show, Uggams became the first Black woman to be a regular on a variety show. And her own later variety series was a milestone. She talks to Mo about her career and her 1965 marriage to Australian Grahame Pratt, at a time when interracial marriage was illegal in many states. This episode comes from a CBS Sunday Morning interview originally aired in 2020.
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0:00.0 | Hi, it's me, Mo. |
0:03.4 | I hope you're enjoying season three of Mobitch Waries. |
0:06.9 | Now if you listened to our Peggy Rusk episode about the interracial marriage that landed |
0:12.0 | on the cover of Time magazine in 1967, I think you'll be especially interested in the story |
0:18.1 | of an earlier interracial union between the fabulous actress Leslie Agams and her husband, |
0:25.0 | the very charming Graham Pratt. |
0:27.4 | I interviewed Leslie and Graham for CBS Sunday Morning in 2020. |
0:32.2 | They told me about their wedding, which took place in 1965, a time when interracial marriage |
0:38.0 | was still illegal in many states. |
0:41.3 | But here's something I recently learned. |
0:43.8 | Art was going to imitate life just a few years later in 1970 when television producer Danny |
0:50.3 | Arnold, who had worked on TVs bewitched and that girl and would go on to create Barney |
0:55.4 | Miller, developed a sitcom for Leslie, featuring an interracial couple. |
1:01.1 | The show never made it to air. |
1:03.4 | The three major television networks all passed on it. |
1:07.1 | Danny Arnold would later tell variety that he'd been informed by the networks that quote, |
1:12.3 | this was a subject they were not ready to deal with. |
1:15.9 | It wasn't until 1975 that an interracial couple started to appear on TV screens on a regular |
1:22.5 | basis. |
1:29.2 | As Georgian Weezie Jefferson moved on up to a deluxe apartment in the sky on the Jefferson's, |
1:35.4 | we met their neighbors, Tom and Helen Willis, a white man and black woman who just so happened |
1:41.7 | to be married. |
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