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How to Lend Money to Strangers

Mobile-first lending in Tanzania, with Nassor Abubakar (NMB Bank)

How to Lend Money to Strangers

Brendan le Grange

Credit, Fintech, Management, Lending, Banking, Business, Careers

52.6K Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2024

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Caleb Maru called M-Pesa the "company that changed Kenya forever", and the crazy thing is, its impact was even bigger than that - because the dominoes that M-Pesafirst tipped over in Kenya, seventeen years ago, are still having an impact all over East Africa. In today's episode, I'm speaking to Nassor Abubakar, an M-Pesa veteran and digital lending expert who is spreading mobile-first digital loans across Tanzania with NMB Bank.



You should follow Nassor on LinkedIn for https://www.linkedin.com/in/nassabuba/



NMB is at https://www.nmbbank.co.tz/ and on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/company/nmb-plc/ and on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram



The Finscope Report mentioned can be accessed here: https://www.afi-global.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Finscope-Tanzania-2023-Report-Insights-that-Drive-Innovation.pdf



Caleb Maru's TechSafari is at https://www.techsafari.io/ or jump straight to the M-Pesa story at https://techsafari.beehiiv.com/p/company-changed-kenya-forever



I'm on LinkedIn and always open to new genuine connections - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanlegrange - please do reach out, and follow the show's page, too



Meanwhile, my action-adventure novels are on Amazon, some versions even for free, and my work with ConfirmU and our gamified psychometric scores is discussed at https://confirmu.com/ and on episode 24 of this show https://www.howtolendmoneytostrangers.show/episodes/episode-24



If you have any feedback or questions, or if you would like to participate in the show, please feel free to reach out to me via the contact page on this site.




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7.5 million people in Tanzania do have bank accounts and we have 24.4 million mobile money wallets.

0:45.0

So the market has awakened and all the customers

0:48.0

as of course all the operators are enjoying a little bit of financial inclusion

0:52.0

through these digital lending initiative.

0:54.7

An opportunity for any street vendor to bus conduct a bicycle repair or mama untilier

1:01.1

to build a score with the bank and later qualify for the loans of up to $250.

1:10.0

My first experience of working abroad came in 2006-2007 when I was

1:18.9

implementing risk-based collection strategies for Barclays portfolio of credit cards and personal loans.

1:24.8

In primarily Botswana and Kenya. Botswana is great, a lovely place you should

1:30.5

visit and I always had a good time there but Kenya was always the more dynamic

1:35.0

market and I'll forever be in love with Nairobi's mad architecture but I'll also

1:40.0

always feel like I missed out a bit because I saw the seeds of massive change and

1:45.1

didn't appreciate what those might grow into. These were the early days before

1:50.2

easy roaming and so we would buy prepaid some cards in Kenya to use while we were there.

1:56.3

And one thing we noticed was that a call from Nairobi to Johannesburg on a safaricom prepaid sim

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