Mob rule: Where should we draw the line on protest?
Radical with Amol Rajan
BBC
4.5 • 919 Ratings
🗓️ 29 February 2024
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
With pro-Palestinian marches in the spotlight, the prime minister saying mob rule is replacing democratic rule and the government announcing more money to protect MPs whose homes are being targeted, this week Amol and Nick explore where the line stands on legitimate protest.
And they look at why Lee Anderson - the MP who lost the Conservative whip after accusing London Mayor Sadiq Khan of being ‘controlled’ by Islamists – still holds power over the Conservative party.
Amol and Nick speak to veteran gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell about why he thinks movements have to push boundaries and engage in direct action to effect change.
And they also hear from Dave Rich, director of policy at the Community Security Trust, which protects British Jews from antisemitism, on why he thinks many of the pro-Palestinian protesters are going too far.
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If you would like a question answering, get in touch by sending us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to +44 330 123 4346 or email us Today@bbc.co.uk The Today Podcast is hosted by Amol Rajan and Nick Robinson, both presenters of BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, the UK’s most influential radio news programme.
Amol was the BBC’s media editor for six years and is the former editor of the Independent, he’s also the current presenter of University Challenge. Nick has presented the Today programme since 2015, he was the BBC’s political editor for ten years before that and also previously worked as ITV’s political editor.
The senior producer is Tom Smithard, the producers are Hazel Morgan and Joe Wilkinson. The editors are Jonathan Aspinwall and Louisa Lewis. The executive producer is Owenna Griffiths. Technical production from Mike Regaard in London and Paul Lewis in Salford. Digital production from Elliot Ryder.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts. |
| 0:04.7 | Would you be happy if protesters stood outside your house, |
| 0:08.8 | if they held banners, if they chanted slogans? |
| 0:11.9 | No, not really. Why'd you ask? |
| 0:13.4 | Well, listen to this. |
| 0:14.5 | Nick, if you want to come and stand outside my house, |
| 0:17.0 | I would be delighted to meet you. |
| 0:18.9 | If you come and do that non-violently, absolutely come and |
| 0:22.6 | stand outside my house, of course. Do you think there's any time in the day or the weekend that |
| 0:28.4 | you should have peace and quiet? If I am responsible for planning the deaths of millions of people, |
| 0:34.8 | then I think I deserve to have people outside my home. |
| 0:38.4 | That was Sarah Luton, one of the co-founders of Justop Oil. |
| 0:41.8 | Speaking to me on the Today program, when I asked her, |
| 0:44.3 | have you got kids? Have you got parents? |
| 0:46.8 | Would you be happy if they came out of their house |
| 0:49.2 | and confronted protesters like you? |
| 0:52.1 | Well, she didn't really answer that question, but you heard what she said. |
| 0:55.7 | Protest. This is about the rights, the legitimate extents and limits of protests, and it's very much in the |
| 1:01.4 | news, because though it was just up oil in that interview you did there, Nick, it's pro-Palestinian |
| 1:06.0 | marches that are in the spotlight this week. And we're in this quite remarkable situation with |
| 1:10.4 | the Home Secretary, James Cleverley, |
| 1:12.2 | has said they've made their point and they should call it off, |
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