My name is Stan. I'm at. Nice to meet you. So you took up photography where? I've always loved

photography but I turn it into earning a living at 60. I enrolled on a day course.

Well college. I loved going to college. It's good you can retry. I'm enrolled on the day course. But college?

I loved going to college.

It's good you can retrain and do something.

Yeah, yeah.

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Hello and welcome to the bunker daily I am your host Alex Andro.

Bloody horses heads and exploding cars, picturesque by hisani and wise-cracking wise guys, white spats and

Tommy guns, Vito Corleone, Tony Soprano and Carmina Falcone.

These are the tropes we'll recall at the mention of the word mafia. Old world

romantic fiction steps in to fill the gaps in our understanding. But as in the recent arrest of Messina de Naro reminded us, the

mafia is very much a brutal, evolving, and very, very real organization. My guest today is an award-winning professor at the

University of Bath who has devoted her working life to the study of organized crime

especially the Italian mafia's. yes there are more than one.

She is the author of Camaristi, politicians and businessmen,

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