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Talking Feds

Mob Boss in the White House

Talking Feds

Harry Litman

News, Politics, Government

4.8 • 4.5K Ratings

🗓️ 1 September 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Guest host Jonathan Alter convenes Peter Baker, Molly Jong-Fast, and Charlie Sykes to talk through Trump’s latest lunge for unchecked power. The quartet dig into the week’s flurry of controversial firings and the prospects for a long-promised, now long-overdue peace deal in Ukraine. They then put Trump’s mafioso tactics under a microscope, investigating why they’ve worked so well, and what everyone can do to resist them.Mentioned in this episode:Jonathan’s Substack: https://oldgoats.substack.com/Peter’s reporting: https://www.nytimes.com/by/peter-baker#latestMolly’s podcast: https://fastpoliticspod.com/Charlie’s Substack: https://charliesykes.substack.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome back to Talking Feds, a roundtable that brings together prominent former federal officials and special guests for a dynamic discussion of the most important political and legal topics of the day.

0:19.6

I'm Jonathan Alter, author of the Old Goats newsletter

0:22.8

on Substack and an MSNBC contributor, and I have the pleasure of guest hosting for Harry Litman,

0:28.7

who will be back next week. It was a week in which Trump found new ways to push the limits

0:33.6

of his power. He began by attempting to fire Lisa Cook, governor of the Federal Reserve,

0:39.3

marking a sharp escalation in Trump's attempt to dictate economic policy to the Fed.

0:45.3

Justice Cook vowed to sue to block the firing. News broke that Health and Human Services

0:52.3

Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. had dismissed CDC director Susan Monteraz.

0:58.4

She too challenged her firing, but Trump backed Kennedy and flexed his authority to make the dismissal official.

1:06.3

Beyond Washington, U.S. envoys worked toward a negotiated peace in Ukraine, even as Russia launched a new

1:13.4

and deadly strike on Kiev. Trump's much-hyped Alaskan summit with Russian counterpart Vladimir

1:19.8

Putin raised expectations that the administration seems to be having a hard time satisfying.

1:25.9

Meanwhile, Trump continued to push an unrelenting deportation

1:30.3

agenda, flood the nation's capital with militarized law enforcement, and touted it all at an endless

1:37.6

televised cabinet meeting. To try to make sense of Trump's flurry of high-profile power grabs,

1:45.1

firings, and his negotiations with Vladimir Putin.

1:48.4

I'm really excited by our guests today.

1:50.9

We've got a great roundtable of three of the most insightful observers of Trump in the whole country.

1:59.8

Peter Baker, you all know.

2:01.6

He's chief White House correspondent for the New York Times and a political analyst for MSNBC.

2:07.2

He's the author of many books.

2:09.6

Most recently, The Divider, Trump in the White House, 2017 to 2021, which he co-wrote with

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