Hey, this is Dre. Thank you for joining us for another Tuesday's retreat. I like talking

to interesting people. You heard me say that before this week is no exception.

Moa Lithy is on television, so you may have seen him, but he is more importantly the executive

director of Georgetown University's Institute of Politics and Public Service. He's worked

in and around campaigns and elections as a particular expertise or emphasis or interest

in communications. I like listening to him because he's thoughtful and he makes an effort

to listen when the other side is talking and try to understand where they're coming from,

which is smart, smart advocacy. Recently, I had the pleasure of joining him at Georgetown

for a wonderful evening. Moa, thank you for hosting us. It was flawless. If anybody

backs out at the last minute in the future, I'll be your eighth or ninth choice then

too. Now, try, it's pleasure to be here. It was a pleasure to host you on campus.

I was joking with someone right after our event. Given when I was working in Democratic

politics, given the number of press releases, I wrote attacking you. If you had told me

that we would one day be friends, we'd be sharing a stage at Georgetown, we'd be having

a friendly chat on your podcast. I thought you were smoking something. That's one of

the beauties of you're in my post-political lives as we can find some religion and get to

know one another and people on the opposite side.

Moa, I am sure I gave you plenty of ammunition. You could have written books, not press releases.

I think we probably did. I'm so happy I was able to help you. I'm always

a star. Before you got where, I mean, I read about you and I learned things that I did

not already know. We've been on panels together. That's when I first kind of, you have the

courage to go on Fox News, which in the environment we're in right now, the easy thing to do

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